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Re: Blockchain and Networking


From: Michael Crapse <michael () wi-fiber io>
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 09:02:59 -0700

The definition of an ASIC is that it has only one use. Just because half of
a 100gb switch is not in use doesn't mean that you can mine bitcoin, or run
a blockchain with the asics not in use..

On 9 January 2018 at 08:49, Jean | ddostest.me via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
wrote:

BTC miners use asics. Big switches/routers use 100Gb asics. Some
switches have multiple 100 Gb asics and sometimes only half is use or
even less.

I guess it could be nice for some smaller telcos to generate some profit
during off peak period. I don't know how feasible and I fully understand
that the vendor warranty should be instantly void.

Also, sometimes telcos have off the shelves spare that gather dust for
years... It could be interesting to also generate few coins.

Jean

On 18-01-09 10:31 AM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
Sure but there are lots of blockchains other than bitcoin.  A lot of
real smart people do not even suspect that bitcoin is a long term survivor
due to its long transaction times.  Which blockchains do you want to
support?  150GB may not seem like a lot (although a lot of my gear does not
have the memory to cache that) but 10 of those is beyond the memory on the
vast majority of network gear I am aware of.  That sure looks like a
slippery slope to me.   Now that a lot of network switching and routers can
support applications, you could just host all of your apps on them just
like you could do all of your routing in your servers.   The question for
you is what responsibilities do you want to take on.   That probably
depends on what business you are in.

There is absolutely no reason that the networking equipment itself
can't both operate the blockchain and keep a full copy.  It's a pretty good
bet that your own routers will probably be online;  if not, you have bigger
problems.

The storage requirements aren't particularly onerous.  The entire
Bitcoin blockchain is around 150GB, with several orders of magnitude more
transactions (read: config changes) than you're likely to see even on a
very large network.  SSDs are small >enough and reliable enough now that
the physical space requirements are quite small.

Steven Naslund
Chicago IL




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