RE: automatic rtbh trigger using flow data

["Lotia, Pratik M" <Pratik.Lotia () charter com>]

> many operators doing this have concentrated on common 
> port-pairs observed in UDP reflection/amplification attacks.

Yes, because that's a great starting point.

> And when we're using techniques like 
> QoSing down certain ports/protocols, we must err on the side of caution,

Arbor report mentions volumetric attacks using DNS, NTP form 75+% of the attacks. Then QoSing certain ports and 
protocols is the best way to start with.

~Pratik Lotia  



-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Roland Dobbins
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 11:13 AM
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Subject: Re: automatic rtbh trigger using flow data


On 31 Aug 2018, at 23:53, Lotia, Pratik M wrote:

> Instead of rtbh I would suggest blocking/rate limiting common ports 
> used in DDoS attacks.

This isn't an 'instead of', it's an 'in addition to'.  And it must be 
done judiciously; many operators doing this have concentrated on common 
port-pairs observed in UDP reflection/amplification attacks.

It's important to understand that any kind of packet of any 
protocol/ports (if such concepts apply on the protocol in question) can 
be used to launch DDoS attacks.

We've many tools in the toolbox, and should use them in a 
situationally-appropriate manner.  And when we're using techniques like 
QoSing down certain ports/protocols, we must err on the side of caution, 
lest we cause larger problems than the attacks themselves.

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