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Re: optical circulator as a bidirectional one fiber solution


From: Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 10:49:11 -0700

Something that is broadly the same as a coherent 100G QPSK single
wavelength optical module, but in two different frequencies, and a passive
CWDM mux/demux prism at each end might work. The limitation would be
availability of optics for a modern 100G MSA that are both coherent and
Tx/Rx at two different THz frequencies.

Or with some box and vendor equipment in between, such as:

http://cdn.extranet.coriant.com/resources/Application-Notes/AN_Groove_Bidirectional_Fiber_74C0169.pdf?mtime=20180206023321

On Tue, Aug 7, 2018 at 1:00 PM Daniel Corbe <dcorbe () hammerfiber com> wrote:

On 8/7/2018 15:46:03, "Baldur Norddahl" <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
wrote:

Hello

There is a lack of bidirectional one fiber (BIDI) options for 40G and
100G optics. Usually BIDI is implemented using two CWDM wavelengths,
one for tx and one for rx. However there is also a lack of CWDM and
DWDM options for 40G and 100G.

Would it be possible to use an optical circulator like this one
(customized to 1310 nm)?

https://www.fs.com/de/en/products/33364.html

Combined with a traditional two fiber 1310 nm 10 km 40G QSFP module
like this: https://www.fs.com/de/en/products/24422.html

The link distance would be 5 km.

The optical circulator separates tx and rx by the direction the light
travels in. It would work even though both directions use the same
wavelength. There will likely be some reflection but hopefully
attenuated enough that it is regarded as background noise.

Has anyone done this? Any reason it would not work?

Regards,

Baldur


The main issue you're going to run into (especially trying to plug
anything into a DWDM shelf) is 40G and 100G transceivers usually emit 4
lanes of traffic instead of a single lane like 10 and 1G optics do.

I'd imagine that's why there are so few solutions that don't involve
things like OTN.



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