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From: Alain Hebert <ahebert () pubnix net>
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 13:46:00 -0400

    Well,

    We could also break that 200yo+ paradigm of having a paywall for what should pretty much be free.

        Like that media supply chain still forcing licensing per country...

    And yes $35USD can be a lot of money for people that are hungry for both food and knowledge.

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On 10/19/17 12:07, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 11:57 AM, João Butzke <lista-gter () tbonet net br>
wrote:

it worked here in Brazil against whatsapp.


there are lots of cases of this sort of tomfoolery "working"... in part or
in whole.
Lee's point is it's dumb to offload this problem on every ISP in the
jurisdiction, AND it's also not going to really fix the problem if the
application is accessible via 'vpn' services (tor, real-vpns, etc).

it's just sort of dumb all the way around :(


Em 19/10/2017 13:49, Lee Howard escreveu:


On 10/17/17, 5:33 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Christopher Morrow"
<nanog-bounces () nanog org on behalf of morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:

you know, the Sci-Hub folk could fix this themselves... with some
authentication requirements... and probably by just unplugging from the
intertubes?

"Sci-Hub’s founder, has previously told The Scientist the site plans to
ignore the lawsuit.” How would Sci-Hub consider this a “fix”?

What enforcement mechanism would the Court have against Sci-Hub?

The idea of making third parties (ISPs) incur costs (updating ACLs or
poisoning DNS) to enforce the order is pretty bad, and doesn’t stop Tor
access. Sorry I didn’t have a chance to file an amicus before the ruling
tomorrow.



Lee


On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Robert Mathews (OSIA)
<mathews () hawaii edu>
wrote:

Judge Recommends Ruling to Block Internet Access to Sci-Hub
The American Chemical Society seeks a broad order that includes millions
of dollars in damages and demands action from Internet service providers
and search engines.
By Diana Kwon | October 4, 2017

http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50563/
title/Judge-Recommends-Ruling-to-Block-Internet-Access-to-Sci-Hub/
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/50361/
title/Publishers--Legal-Action-Advances-Against-Sci-Hub/




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