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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables


From: Joe Hamelin <joe () nethead com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 19:17:37 -0700

Sean said: "Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations,
which are documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of
longitude & latitude; and and included in navigation maps...."

Or you just follow the manhole covers that say Global Crossings.

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Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, +1 (360) 474-7474

On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com> wrote:

On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:

And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas
pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.


Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations, which are
documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of longitude
& latitude; and and included in navigation maps....

Finding the exact cable routes in the middle of the country requires on
the ground surveying and locating cable markers. Piecemeal maps exist at
the local level, and high-level maps are available from various providers.
But as anyone familar with cable accidents or network planning knows, those
marketing maps are aspirational.  I had real estate people try to convince
me that "fiber was available" at specific sites because there was a
railroad across the road, and everyone "knew" that fiber was always next to
railroads.

Yes, its fairly simple to find a cable marker, if you put people (i.e.
diplomats) on the ground in remote areas across the country.

But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are
not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the country.



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