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Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables
From: Sean Donelan <sean () donelan com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2017 16:57:54 -0400 (EDT)
On Thu, 1 Jun 2017, Rod Beck wrote:
And even in Kansas most fiber optic cables are probably next to roads, gas pipelines, and railways. Pretty easy to find.
Unlike cable landing stations and satellite earth stations, which are documented in public FCC licenses, usually to 6 decimal points of longitude & latitude; and and included in navigation maps....
Finding the exact cable routes in the middle of the country requires on the ground surveying and locating cable markers. Piecemeal maps exist at the local level, and high-level maps are available from various providers. But as anyone familar with cable accidents or network planning knows, those marketing maps are aspirational. I had real estate people try to convince me that "fiber was available" at specific sites because there was a railroad across the road, and everyone "knew" that fiber was always next to railroads.
Yes, its fairly simple to find a cable marker, if you put people (i.e. diplomats) on the ground in remote areas across the country.
But, its odd to send diplomats to remote areas of the country, if you are not trying to survey geographic infrastructure in the middle of the country.
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- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Brandon Vincent (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables valdis . kletnieks (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Mel Beckman (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Brandon Vincent (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Eric Kuhnke (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Sean Donelan (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables clinton mielke (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Bruce H McIntosh (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Sean Donelan (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Scott Christopher (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Sean Donelan (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Joe Hamelin (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 01)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Alain Hebert (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables valdis . kletnieks (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables valdis . kletnieks (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Christopher Morrow (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables valdis . kletnieks (Jun 02)
- Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables Rod Beck (Jun 02)