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Re: Bandwidth Savings


From: Marty Strong via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 21:34:23 +0000

I believe the ISP is located in Trinidad & Tobago.

There are five international submarine cables that land on the island:
- SG-SCS
- Americas-II
- ECFS
- Southern Caribbean Fiber
- ECLink

Of those, 1 go to the closest real interconnectivity hub of Miami, with the others requiring another pair onwards.

ECLink lands in Curaçao, which could give access to AMS-IX Caribbean, which may help with connectivity to content 
providers, both Akamai and Goole are live and we are in the process of connecting 
(https://cw.ams-ix.net/connected_parties). Pricing however, is probably just as expensive on that cable than to Miami.

It would be interesting to hear from the OP the rough pricing for connectivity to Miami, vs. elsewhere.

Regards,
Marty Strong
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Cloudflare - AS13335
Network Engineer
marty () cloudflare com
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https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/13335

On 11 Jan 2017, at 21:23, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuhnke () gmail com> wrote:

The challenges are almost certainly economics related, at the lack of
competition and high costs for layer 1/2 transport from his Caribbean
island to Miami. Via whatever submarine cables exist that are controlled by
larger ILEC type entities/telcos. Or satellite (whether geostationary
transponder capacity or o3b).

Depending on what island we're talking about, the $$$$$/month for a single
1GbE or 10GbE layer 2 transport service from $ISLAND to Miami will be very
high compared to what a network operator in the US 48 states is accustomed
to paying.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Richard Hicks <richard.hicks () gmail com>
wrote:

​​
I don't know the the Caribbean Internet Exchanges market.  Are any worth
peering at versus buying additional L2 bandwidth to Miami?

https://cw.ams-ix.net/
http://www.ocix.net/ocix/

Rick​

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:08 PM, Keenan Singh <keenansingh () airlinktt net>
wrote:

Hi Guys

We are an ISP in the Caribbean, and are faced with extremely high
Bandwidth
costs, compared to the US, we currently use Peer App for Caching however
with most services now moving to HTTPS the cache is proving to be less
and
less effective. We are currently looking at any way we can save on
Bandwidth or to be more Efficient with the Bandwidth we currently have.
We
do have a Layer 2 Circuit between the Island and Miami, I am seeing there
are WAN Accelerators where they would put a Server on either end and sort
of Compress and decompress the Traffic before it goes over the Layer 2, I
have never used this before, has any one here used anything like this,
what
results would I be able to expect for ISP Traffic?

If not any ideas on Bandwidth Savings, or being more Efficient with want
we
currently.

Many thanks for any Help

Keenan




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