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Re: US/Canada International border concerns for routing


From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 17:54:56 -0600

On 20/07/2017, Hiers, David <David.Hiers () cdk com> wrote:
Hi,
We're looking to extend some services into Canada.  While our lawyers dig
into it, I thought that I'd ask the hive mind about border restrictions.

For traffic routing, is anyone constraining cross-border routing between
Canada and the US?  IOW, if you are routing from Toronto to Montreal, do you
have to guarantee that the path cannot go through, say, Syracuse, New York?

Guarantee to whom?

Back a few years ago when I looked into it, most of the traffic within
Canada went through the US, e.g., since Bell didn't want to peer with
anyone in Canada, you'd go something like YYZ - ORD - YYZ, clearly
visible through the traceroute.

Possibly somewhat better nowadays — there's been quite a few new IX
POPs that popped up — but I doubt the scenario is a thing of the past.

P.S.  Just for the giggles — checked http://lg.he.net/ routing from
core1.tor1.he.net to www.bell.ca — still goes through Chicago, to
Montreal, from Toronto. :-)  Going straight to Montreal,
core1.ymq1.he.net, will route you to www.bell.ca (still in Montreal)
through the peering at NYC.

P.P.S.  In other words — if someone wants guarantees, they better
explicitly ask you for it.

Cheers,
Constantine.
http://cm.su/


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