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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey


From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 21:58:42 -0400

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:24 PM, Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org> wrote:

On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:

Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the
impression CloudFlare was not able to do that.

There have been a lot of rumors about this attack. Some say reflection,
others say Layer 7, others say .. other stuff. If it is Layer 7, how are
you going to ÿÿstep in front of the cannonÿÿ? Would you just pass through
all the traffic?


Anycast + load balancers + high powered varnish?


notionally (because I have been paying zero attention to this) jon's
suggesting:
  1) setup a crapload of nginx/squid/etc configured tightly for things to
be accessed behind them
  2) ecmp to them across several layers (assume 32 ecmp at each layer, call
it 4 layers get craploads of machines running)
  3) change over the dns
  4) profit--

eh? If you can eat the PPS, you can spray across enough tcp listeners, you
can weed out the chaff and start filtering in the 'application'... perhaps
also run a 'low bandwidth' version of the target site...

hey look, we invented prolexic.


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