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Re: Krebs on Security booted off Akamai network after DDoS attack proves pricey


From: Justin Paine via NANOG <nanog () nanog org>
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 12:29:42 -0700

We routinely mitigate L7s. Matthew is also on the record saying we've
seen and mitigated similar attacks to this one (based on available
information about this attack).

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Justin Paine
Head of Trust & Safety
CloudFlare Inc.
PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6 6452 7115 57B6 0114 DE0B 314D


On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:
Is CloudFlare able to filter Layer 7 these days? I was under the impression CloudFlare was not able to do that.

There have been a lot of rumors about this attack. Some say reflection, others say Layer 7, others say .. other 
stuff. If it is Layer 7, how are you going to ‘step in front of the cannon’? Would you just pass through all the 
traffic?

I realize Matthew is always happy for publicity (hell, the whole planet is aware of that). But if your system cannot 
actually do the required task, I’m not sure your company should give you credit for offering a service the user 
cannot use.

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TTFN,
patrick

On Sep 23, 2016, at 3:16 PM, Justin Paine via NANOG <nanog () nanog org> wrote:

FWIW, we have offered to help. No word so far. We're more than willing
to step in front of the cannon pointed his way.

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Justin Paine
Head of Trust & Safety
CloudFlare Inc.
PGP: BBAA 6BCE 3305 7FD6 6452 7115 57B6 0114 DE0B 314D


On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Marcin Cieslak <saper () saper info> wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, jim deleskie wrote:

They were hosting him for free, and like insurance, I can assure you if you
are consistently using a service, and not covering the costs of that
service you won't be a client for long.  This is the basis for AUP/client
contracts and have been going back to the days when we all offered only
dialup internet.

Does being a victim of a DDoS constitute a breach of AUP?

Marcin Cieślak



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