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RE: Spitballing IoT Security
From: Emille Blanc <emille () abccommunications com>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 14:39:15 -0700
On Thu, 27 Oct 2016, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:My iPhone 3GS still works just fine,I still have a "functional" iPhone 3G (no S). I don't think AT&T will activate service on it at this point, and it's been relegated to iPod service when I do yard work.You can't *force* people to throw away or trade-in their old tech products, especially when, from the user's point of view, there doesn't -seem- to be anything wrong with them... like all of those pre- Sept. 2015 Internet video cameras.Sure you can. Just make the tech dependent on "the cloud" and when the device is too old, force retirement by no longer supporting it. That doesn't force it off the network (unless the final command from the cloud is "shut off [your network interface]?"), but it makes the user much more likely to toss it and replace it with something newer if they still want such a device.
Or shut down the network that the phone(s) support. Anyone remember the analogue cell network shutdown? Or am I already that old? http://www.pcworld.com/article/142119/article.html Granted there were other problems this presented. Decreased coverage in areas for example is my favourite, as it opened the doors for such revolutionary pay-as-you-go-licensing features for base stations such as range-by-the-kilometre. But I think with this, I'm contributing to driving this thread off the topic of IoT security, and will now dive back into staring at some netflow data.
Current thread:
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security, (continued)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Mark Andrews (Oct 27)
- RE: Spitballing IoT Security Emille Blanc (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Edward Dore (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security -- Dancing around a solution Stephen Satchell (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Leo Bicknell (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Mark Andrews (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Ca By (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Jon Lewis (Oct 27)
- RE: Spitballing IoT Security Emille Blanc (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Rich Kulawiec (Oct 28)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Geoffrey Keating (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security John Levine (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Leo Bicknell (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 26)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Chris Boyd (Oct 26)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Mark Andrews (Oct 26)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Mel Beckman (Oct 26)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security tim () pelican org (Oct 27)
- Re: Spitballing IoT Security Ronald F. Guilmette (Oct 27)