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Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh


From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 11:30:02 -0400

Actually, back in the T1/T3 days, colos frequently asked what you ran on the cable and then charged you based on the 
capacity of the circuit - even when it was the same exact cable. Of course, none of us would ever ask for T1 xconn then 
run ethernet over it.

Colo providers are absolutely worried about drops in xconn revenue. Look at some large colo providers who are public 
and split out their numbers. You’ll see that the percentage of their profit from xconns is usually more than double the 
percentage of their revenue from xconns. Put another way, if xconn revenue drops by 10%, their profit drops by over 
20%. How many public companies can shrug off a 20% drop in EPS? I submit: Not very many.

This is not surprising. When you build your business on the ignorance of your customers, you are in a world of hurt 
once your customers learn even a little bit more.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

On Jun 19, 2016, at 10:13 AM, jim deleskie <deleskie () gmail com> wrote:

I don't buy this.  They sold you one cable before, they sell you cable now.
 Little difference then we moved customers from a T1 to  T3 back in the
90's.  If Colo's can't understand more then 20+ yrs of evolution its hardly
right to blame it on the market.


-jim
Mimir Networks
www.mimirnetworks.com


On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

Before 100G, you'd need ten cross connects to move 100G. Now you'd need
only one. That's a big drop in revenue.




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



Midwest Internet Exchange
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Brandon Butterworth" <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
To: bross () pobox com, dave () temk in
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:55:57 AM
Subject: Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh

Dave Temkin <dave () temk in> wrote:
And as colo operators get freaked out over margin compression on the
impending 10->100G conversion (which is happening exponentially faster
than
100->1G & 1G->10G) they'll need to move those levers of spend around
regardless.

If they've based their model on extracting profit proportional
to technology speed then they've misunderstood Moore's law

brandon




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