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Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh
From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 08:33:14 -0500 (CDT)
I think that's where the value in a distributed IX comes into play. The more nimble networks can move to different facilities while still maintaining the connectivity. Enough of that happens and pricing pressure comes into play in other parts of the market (space and cross connects). For those of you that operate in many markets, do you see any parallels where one operator has (or had) a hold on the market (Chicago Equinix and Miami Terremark for instance) compared to more diversified markets like NYC (due to a variety of IXes) or Seattle (due to SIX)? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Temkin" <dave () temk in> To: "Brandon Ross" <bross () pobox com> Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2016 8:19:16 AM Subject: Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Brandon Ross <bross () pobox com> wrote:
Value based pricing is all the rage these days, which is why they charge you so much for cross connects.
Exactly. Not that I don't like free cross connects (they're the bees knees, in fact), but at the end of the day, an existing colo operator is not going to go from paid->free cross connects without extracting that pound of flesh (read: sweet sweet 100% pure margin) from somewhere else. Your space and/or power prices will go up to backfill that lost profit. That said, those of us that buy a decent amount of colo prefer to trade in the value of the asset leased/purchased - space & power - as we have real world indexes to tie the underlying cost to for negotiation purposes. And as colo operators get freaked out over margin compression on the impending 10->100G conversion (which is happening exponentially faster than 100->1G & 1G->10G) they'll need to move those levers of spend around regardless. -Dave
Current thread:
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Dave Temkin (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Mike Hammett (Jun 19)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Brandon Butterworth (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Mike Hammett (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh jim deleskie (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh David Barak via NANOG (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Patrick W. Gilmore (Jun 19)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Joe Hamelin (Jun 20)
- Re: cross connects and their pound of flesh Mike Hammett (Jun 19)