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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 17:17:19 +0200
* zbynek () dialtelecom cz (Zbyněk Pospíchal) [Thu 16 Jun 2016, 14:23 CEST]:
Dne 15.06.16 v 20:10 Mikael Abrahamsson napsal(a):Well, the customers also wanted more functions and features. They wanted sFLOW statistics to show traffic, customer portals, better SLAs, distributed IXes, remote peering, more hand-holding when connecting etc.Are you sure they still want them if they have to pay for these features separately?Currently, such luxury functions are increasing costs also for networks who don't need/want it.
sFlow statistics isn't a luxury function. Neither is remote peering. The others Mikael mentioned are debatable at worst but you'd be telling the membership what they really want rather than listening to them saying what they want.
This thread is full of people who have never run large L2 networks stating their opinions on running large L2 networks, and they invariably underestimate their complexity and the logistics required.
-- Niels.
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- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
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- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Brandon Ross (Jun 18)
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- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Pete Mundy (Jun 18)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Niels Bakker (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Niels Bakker (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Adam Rothschild (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Phil Rosenthal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Matt Peterson (Jun 14)