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Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?
From: Hank Nussbacher <hank () efes iucc ac il>
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 08:25:04 +0300
On 14/06/2016 20:49, Randy Bush wrote:
the O in nanog is operator, not sponsor, panderer, suck up, ... we're spending millions for half debugged underperforming crap and we are cornered by infrastructure providers (e.g. ixps) who run us over time and again if it makes an extra penny.
I am not at NANOG67 and am following this issue remotely. Excuse me if I am getting this all wrong. Dave shows a slide that LINX made $2.3M profit and AMS-IX made $4.1M last year and Randy states "that the IXPs run us over to make an extra penny"? Would we prefer that Level3 which reported profits of $122M operate the IXPs instead? Or perhaps NTT with $4.7B in profits in 2015? The Internet is no longer a volunteer operation run out of a few CS departments in major universities. If an IXP makes $4M of profit - good for them. I'd rather have each of these IXPs not only secure from cyber attacks but also secure financially. To all IXPs that keep the bits flowing - keep up the good work. Kudos! -Hank
Current thread:
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing?, (continued)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Phil Rosenthal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Eric Kuhnke (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 17)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mark Tinka (Jun 19)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Zbyněk Pospíchal (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Mike Hammett (Jun 16)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Matt Peterson (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Paul WALL (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Hank Nussbacher (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Leo Bicknell (Jun 15)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Bryan Fields (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Randy Bush (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Daniel Golding (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? William Herrin (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Owen DeLong (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Peter Beckman (Jun 14)
- Re: NANOG67 - Tipping point of community and sponsor bashing? Rich Kulawiec (Jun 14)