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Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels


From: Mark Foster <blakjak () blakjak net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:48:20 +1200



On 10/06/2016 4:38 p.m., Mark Andrews wrote:
It would be nice to live in a world where that were the case. However, the
world we live in is run my bean counters, and the marketing department.
IPv6 is a huge project that is seen by them as an unnecessary expense.
Absolute BS.  IPv6 has never needed to be a huge project for a ISP
compared to everything else a ISP does.  It required some research
and ensuring that you bought compatible equipement and things fell
due for replacement.  If you failed to do the research and therefore
needed to do everthing in a rush then it might seem like a huge
project.

Router-jockeys and purists often cite this. I've done it myself.
But there are a lot more moving parts in most service providers than simply the ones and zeros. Bandwidth Accounting, Billing, Provisioning systems in particular - and the developers/maintainers of these who have little or no knowledge of IPv6 and perhaps not a lot more than that of IPv4, except that it's more easily human-read and digested?

This was very much my experience in more than one ISP job over recent years - the network kit is more than capable, it's the bits around the outside that need work. Even if routing and switching kit was subject to lifecycle-replacement every 5 years or so, software components that are in the background, 'just work' and suddenly are very black-boxy because the author has long since left the organisation and noone left behind knows how to make it IPv6ready... sometimes the forklift approach is what is left.

Sorry this is tangental to the thread's focus but every time I see this particular argument trotted out I feel like it's overlooking the obvious; lack of sufficient forethought 10 years ago turns into significant piece of work today. A lesson? Yes, but hindsight is 20:20.

Mark.



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