RE: Netflix banning HE tunnels

["Chuck Church" <chuckchurch () gmail com>]

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Elvis Daniel Velea
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 6:36 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Netflix banning HE tunnels

Netflix, YOU are the ones forcing people to turn IPv4 off... this is just insane. tens (if not hundred) of thousands of 
people chose to use HE tunnels because their ISP does not offer IPv6..
do you really expect all of them to turn it off? do you really want IPv6 usage in the world to go down by a few percent 
because you are unable to figure out how to serve content?
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I hate to say it, but I'm willing to bet that for every one person who setup an HE tunnel to get functional IPv6 ahead 
of native via ISP, there are probably 10 who set it up solely to get around geo-lockout.  Honestly though, is there any 
reason the Netflix 'client' as part of its login can't be queried for an IPv4 address if Netflix sees (or thinks) a 
tunnel is involved?  If there is a tunnel involved, you most likely have IPv4 access on the client.  Then do a 
geo-lookup on the IPv4.  I guess the ~500 people on NANOG using HE to get to NetFlix could all cancel their 
subscriptions, but that's just a drop of water in the bucket.  It sucks.  The true jerks who used HE to bypass 
geo-lockout probably changed to something else the next day.  But we suffer still.  The FCC or some other federal 
entity probably needs to step in.

Chuck