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Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 08:58:58 -0500 (CDT)

(not specifically to Cryptographrix) Anyone that expects any consumer-focused support to be able to address any legal 
or high level technical situation is a fool for having thought appropriate. These sorts of issues are things you start 
with Tempkin and others that frequent NOGs and other telecom events. You don't go to the web site support chat to get 
them to make a change to how they handle IPv6 on their end. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Cryptographrix" <cryptographrix () gmail com> 
To: "Mark Felder" <feld () feld me>, nanog () nanog org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 8:55:10 AM 
Subject: Re: Netflix VPN detection - actual engineer needed 

As I said to Netflix's tech support - if they advocate for people to turn 
off IPv6 on their end, maybe Netflix should stop supporting it on their end. 

It's in the air whether it's just an HE tunnel issue or an IPv6 issue at 
the moment, and if their tech support is telling people to turn off IPv6, 
maybe they should just instead remove their AAAA records. 

(or fail back to ipv4 when v6 looks like a tunnel) 



On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 9:22 AM Mark Felder <feld () feld me> wrote: 


On Jun 6, 2016, at 22:25, Spencer Ryan <sryan () arbor net> wrote: 

The tunnelbroker service acts exactly like a VPN. It allows you, from any 
arbitrary location in the world with an IPv4 address, to bring traffic 
out 
via one of HE's 4 POP's, while completely masking your actual location. 


Perhaps Netflix should automatically block any connection that's not from 
a known residential ISP or mobile ISP as anything else could be a server 
someone is proxying through. It's very easy to get these subnets -- the 
spam filtering folks have these subnets well documented. /s 

-- 
Mark Felder 
feld () feld me 




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