Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)

[Aaron <aaron () wholesaleinternet net>]

If you believe someone is doing something illegal than you should report 
it to law enforcement.  Their job is to investigate and bring charges if 
they feel they are warranted.  You do not have to be from the USA to 
report a crime in the USA.

Here is a list with contact info for the FBI's field offices: 
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices

FBI Headquarters: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/fbi-headquarters

List of overseas offices for those of you not in the US that want to 
talk to someone local: https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/legal-attache-offices

Most network operators are not law enforcement or lawyers.

Aaron


On 7/28/2016 8:45 AM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
> A DDoS attack is illegal.  In the United States it is considered as theft of service.  The legal construct used is that 
> the DDoS attack is a theft of CPU cycles, compute resources, and power by other than the rightful owner for its 
> intended purposes.
>
> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 4:30 AM
> To: Miles Fidelman
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)
>
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:55:54 -0400, Miles Fidelman said:
> > On 7/27/16 10:48 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> > > > They just lost all respect from here. Would someone from USA please
> > > > report these guys to the feds? What they are doing is outright
> > > > criminal.
> > > hyperbole.  it is not criminal.  you just don't happen to like it.
> > Actually, as someone pointed out, it might well be conspiracy - which
> > is criminal.
> In general, the conspiracy isn't criminal if the conspired act isn't criminal.
> If you're trying to make a criminal conspiracy out of non-criminal acts, your best bet is probably finding a new way to 
> abuse the RICO statutes.

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