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Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare)
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:00:00 +0200
On 28 July 2016 at 11:30, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
In general, the conspiracy isn't criminal if the conspired act isn't criminal. If you're trying to make a criminal conspiracy out of non-criminal acts, your best bet is probably finding a new way to abuse the RICO statutes.
DDoS attacks using stolen resources and fake identities is not legal and it is not free speech. Moreover it is illegal just as it is illegal for me to smash your car. Cloudflare are saying they are not smashing any cars. Cloudflare will however act as couriers, provide anonymity and protect anyone that does smash cars. Also Cloudflare sells "protection" against car smashing. But all this is just free speech - sorry no, this is not any better than what the mafia guys are doing in bad parts of the town. Regards, Baldur
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- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Mark Andrews (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paras Jha (Jul 27)
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- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Justin Paine via NANOG (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Christopher Morrow (Jul 27)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Randy Bush (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Baldur Norddahl (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Justin Paine via NANOG (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Alain Hebert (Jul 28)
- RE: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Naslund, Steve (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Aaron (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paul WALL (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Paras Jha (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Niels Bakker (Jul 28)
- Re: EVERYTHING about Booters (and CloudFlare) Miles Fidelman (Jul 28)