Re: The IPv6 Travesty that is Cogent's refusal to peer Hurricane Electric - and how to solve it

[Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com>]

Owen DeLong wrote:
>

> Crazy multihop BGP setups

I like that setup. And it never struck me as crazy. In fact, their 
implementation avoids all multihop setup shortcuts and is quite purist 
from a routing standpoint.


The multihop approach gives you the option of where to slice and dice 
your full table direct from ebgp.

In essence, that setup enables you as a customer to have a setup exactly 
like Cogent had as a vendor. If thats what you want.

> because they don’t do BGP on many (most?) of their customer facing routers?


I have a pending request to get that multi-hop setup. I was told that it 
was now a special request and they would "try" to get it done and these 
days all their routers had full table capacity and they no longer used 
the multi-hop.


> Frequent outages in many locations (maybe not where you are, seems to be certain problem areas on their network and not 
> others)
> Spamtastic sales force?
> Overly aggressive sales calls?
>
> I’m sure there are more, but as I’ve never been a Cogent customer (thankfully) due to their history of bad peering 
> policies, peering disputes, generally obnoxious conduct as a company, etc. it is difficult for me to know much about 
> the customer experience beyond what I hear from others, most of whom are former Cogent customers.
>
> Interestingly, when I worked for HE, I wasn’t allowed to speak my mind about Cogent lest it “reflect badly” on HE.
>
> Owen