Re: GPON vs. GEPON

[Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com>]

You are not the average user.
On Jan 8, 2016 1:39 PM, "Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com> wrote:

> Only if the 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz networks are on the same SSID.
>
> I don’t do that… I maintain separate 5Ghz and 2.4Ghz SSIDs. This allows me
> to know
> which one I am on and force when desirable (usually forcing 5Ghz is
> desirable).
>
> Owen
>
> On Jan 8, 2016, at 11:03 , Josh Reynolds <josh () kyneticwifi com> wrote:
>
> Customer devices will see the higher signal on the 2.4GHz AP and simply
> connect to that, especially as they roam through the house. Most don't pay
> attention to SNR at all.
> On Jan 8, 2016 12:53 PM, "Mike Hammett" <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:
>
> > I think that was Josh's point, that 5 GHz will likely deliver better RF
> > performance than 2.4 (despite physics) due to the amount of interference in
> > 2.4.
> >
> >
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> > *From: *"Owen DeLong" <owen () delong com>
> > *To: *"Josh Reynolds" <josh () kyneticwifi com>
> > *Cc: *"NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>, nanog-isp () mail com
> > *Sent: *Friday, January 8, 2016 12:46:37 PM
> > *Subject: *Re: GPON vs. GEPON
> >
> > > Count in oversubscription rates for residential, and consider that most
> > > people, despite what they say or think, will end up on 2.4GHz wireless
> > in
> > > the home due to 5GHz sucking more than a room away - that ends up being
> > a
> > > very scalable solution for residential service.
> >
> > Um… 5GHz works a lot better from one end of my house to the other than
> > 2.4Ghz
> > due (in large part) to this fact… Almost every one of my neighbors is
> > using
> > various 2.4GHz devices including about 45 external SSIDs visible from the
> > center of my house using the on-board antenna of an ESP8266 board from
> > Adafruit.
> >
> > The noise floor and congestion on 2.4GHz in many urban settings,
> > especially here
> > in Silicon Valley makes 5Ghz a much better option in any home where
> > people are
> > smart enough to pay attention to the difference.
> >
> > OTOH, since the WiFi consortium took away the ability for consumers to
> > easily
> > differentiate (it’s all “n” or “ac” now regardless of frequency) and you
> > have
> > to really read the fine print on the side of the box to find a 5Ghz
> > capable
> > WAP at your local big box store, most consumers end up on 2.4Ghz because
> > those
> > are the least expensive routers on the shelf.
> >
> > Personally, I don’t mind this, but I think the 2.4Ghz prevalence has more
> > to do
> > with consumers not knowing what they are buying than it does with
> > performance.
> >
> > Owen