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RE: Arista Routing Solutions


From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>
Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 08:14:40 -0400


High Touch / Low Touch

Is this a measure of the amount of fiddle diddling required to get the chip to work as documented, or is it some other 
kind of code?

For example a "High Touch" chip needs lots of fiddle farting because it was designed by a moron and every possible 
thing that can be programmed incorrectly is programmed incorrectly, whereas in a "Low Touch" chip all the defaults are 
already set to the most useful and rational setting so that it can be used without touching it to fix all the defects?

Perhaps it is a measure of the babysitting required while the chip is running.  "High Touch" chips require constant 
attention, nappy changes, positive re-inforcement of the settings, etc., while operating because they are inherently 
unreliable and badly designed whereas "Low Touch" chips once set up just work and require little ongoing supervision 
unless you want to change something?

Or is it just a strange translation for functionality (as in High End / Low End)?


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Saku Ytti
Sent: Saturday, 23 April, 2016 14:21
To: Tom Hill
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: Arista Routing Solutions

On 23 April 2016 at 10:52, Tom Hill <tom () ninjabadger net> wrote:
In broad strokes: for your money you're either getting port density, or
more features per port. The only difference here is that there's
suddenly more TCAM on the device, and I still don't see the above
changing too drastically.

Yeah OP is comparing high touch chip (MX104) to low touch chip
(Jericho) that is not fair comparison. And cost is what customer is
willing to pay, regardless of sticker on the box. No one will pay
significant mark-up for another sticker, I've never seen in RFP
significant differences in comparable products.

Fairer comparison would be QFX10k, instead of MX104. QFX10k is AFAIK
only product in this segment which is not using Jericho. If this is
competitive advantage or risk, jury is still out, I lean towards
competitive advantage, mainly due to its memory design.

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