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Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences


From: Todd Crane <todd.crane () n5tech com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 16:43:00 -0700

You do realize that this is the exact kind of thing that caused this discussion in the first place. I'm well familiar 
with that case. I was talking about my own experiences in the food service industry, but of course you barely read a 
sentence and set on a war path accusing me of not checking my facts, quite like somebody googling a geolocation for an 
ip and harnessing/threatening the other side.

As to the case, it had its merits, but since then it has spawned a whole bunch of people trying to get rich quick. Now 
every company has to put these warning labels to appease their insurance companies. Now we have people that can't think 
for themselves that NEED labels. It's much like the debate about trying to legislate common sense.

Todd Crane

On Apr 13, 2016, at 6:25 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:

On Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:57:42 -0700, Todd Crane said:
.What ever happened to holding people responsible for being
stupid. When did it start becoming ((fill in the blank)) coffee shop
for you burning your tongue on your coffee

Whatever happened to holding people responsible for fact checking before they
post? :)

You *do* realize that the woman in the McDonald's case got *third degree*
burns and required skin grafts, right?  Water at 180F is hot enough to
burn you - we even have a word for it: scalding.  And unlike sipping too-hot
coffee, where you can spit it out quickly, hot water spilled on clothing
continues to burn until the clothing is removed or cooled off - neither of
which is feasible when you're elderly and seated in a car.

And that she originally only sued for the cost of her medical bills, and the
jury increased it with punitive damages when presented evidence that over 700
other people had received burns?

Now go and get informed, and commit this sin no more :)

https://www.caoc.org/?pg=facts - how that lawsuit *actually* played out.

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