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Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 14:33:30 -0700
On Apr 14, 2016, at 13:14 , Larry Sheldon <larrysheldon () cox net> wrote: On 4/14/2016 12:09, Owen DeLong wrote:On Apr 14, 2016, at 05:46 , John Levine <johnl () iecc com> wrote:If they're land lines, the NPA/NXX will be local to the CO so you won't have out-of-area numbers other than a rare corner case of a very expensive foreign exchange line. If they're VoIP lines, the address is *supposed* to be so registered, but softphones and even VoIP handsets tend to move around without the user considering 9-1-1.VoIP was dragged kicking and screaming into E911, so now they charge extra and are quite clear about it. My VoIP provider regularly reminds me to update my 9-1-1 address, but since I don't have to pay the 9-1-1 fee if I lie and say I'm outside North America, that's what I do. Since I also have a classic CO-powered copper landline (1/4 mile from the CO, no concentrators or repeaters) and a couple of cell phones, I think we're covered.With my VOIP provider, I didn’t quite have to lie. I generally don’t need my VOIP number when I’m in the US (cell is free here), so I simply told them “I do not intend to use this number or this service within the US”. The first time I sent them a marked-up contract, they contacted me with questions. The following year, the new version of the contract reflected my changes to their original wording. Since then, I’ve been pretty much satisfied with my service from callcentric and the price is right.Quick question: What happens (in the purely hypothetical case, I sincerely hope) if the building is on fire and it turns out that the VOIP-phone is the only one that works?
That would be an interesting phenomenon since my VOIP clients are both dependent on data services working on one of laptop, iPad, iPhone.
Do you leave it turned off?
Of course not, but since the building in question is very unlikely to have been any address I would have filed on said contract, it’s far better that the person at the other end is having to ask me for the address than to have emergency workers respond to some location that I’m not at. If, OTOH, the building in question is my home, I’m more likely to get a faster response by banging on a neighbors door than by struggling to get the VOIP phone up and running on some alternative connectivity. Owen
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- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences, (continued)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Eric Kuhnke (Apr 18)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences John Levine (Apr 18)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Jay Hennigan (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Peter Beckman (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Jay Hennigan (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences John Levine (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Owen DeLong (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences John R. Levine (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Larry Sheldon (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Owen DeLong (Apr 14)
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- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Jonathan Smith (Apr 14)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Peter Beckman (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Owen DeLong (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences John Levine (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences John Levine (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Matthew Kaufman (Apr 13)
- Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Larry Sheldon (Apr 13)
- Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Carlos M. Martinez (Apr 13)
- Re: GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences Steve Atkins (Apr 11)