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Re: IPv6 Irony.


From: Masataka Ohta <mohta () necom830 hpcl titech ac jp>
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 15:42:37 +0900

Mark Andrews wrote:

Customer support, especially network troubleshootings and so on...

Customer support for IPv6 costs a lot, at least because of:

    1) Unnecessarily lengthy IP addresses, not recognized by most, if not
       all, customers

    2) Lack of so promised automatic renumbering

Upgrade the vendors.  Nodes already renumber themselves automatically
when a new prefix appears.

Can the nodes treat multiple prefixes on multiple (virtual) interfaces
for smooth ISP handover?

Nodes can update their addresses in the DNS if the want to securely
using DNS UPDATE and TSIG / SIG(0).

How much is the customer support cost for the service?

This isn't rocket science.  Firewall vendors could supply tools to
allow nodes to update their addresses in the firewall.  They could
even co-ordinate through a standards body.  It isn't that hard to
take names, turn them into addresses and push out new firewall rules
on demand as address associated with those names change.

As I and my colleague developed protocol suites to automatically
renumber multihomed hosts and routers

The Basic Procedures of Hierarchical Automatic Locator
Number Allocation Protocol HANA
http://delivery.acm.org/10.1145/2090000/2089037/p124-kenji.pdf?ip=131.112.32.134&id=2089037&acc=ACTIVE%20SERVICE&key=D2341B890AD12BFE.E857D5F645C75AE5.4D4702B0C3E38B35.4D4702B0C3E38B35&CFID=723424660&CFTOKEN=36506659&__acm__=1445495785_e3533480d8843be13ab34593a1faf194

which is now extended for DNS update including glue, I know it is
doable.

But, as it is a lot more simpler to do so with IPv4 with
NAT, 48 bit address space by NAT is large enough and NAT can
enjoy end to end transparency, I see no point to use IPv6 here.

Automatic renumbering of IPv6 *WAS* promising, because it was
not necessary to replace existing IPv4-only boxes.

                                                Masataka Ohta


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