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Re: /27 the new /24


From: Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2015 06:09:18 -0500 (CDT)

Agreed. Often times people forget that budgets aren't unlimited and not everyone is in One Wilshire, 350 Cermak or 60 
Hudson. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 
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----- Original Message -----

From: "Jason Baugher" <jason () thebaughers com> 
To: "James Jun" <james () towardex com> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Thursday, October 8, 2015 7:21:05 PM 
Subject: Re: /27 the new /24 

This thread, while originally interesting and helpful, seems to have 
degraded to a contest to see who can be the most arrogant, condescending 
and insulting. Congrats. 
On Oct 8, 2015 6:25 PM, "James Jun" <james () towardex com> wrote: 

On Thu, Oct 08, 2015 at 03:45:38PM -0700, Mike wrote: 

NO, THERE IS NOT. We operate in rural and underserved areas and WE DO 
NOT HAVE realistic choices. Can you see me from your ivory tower? 

Who is your upstream provider? 

I think you're confused on how the IP transit industry works. 

If you want choices in your transit providers, you should get a transport 
circuit (dark, wave or EPL) to a nearby carrier hotel/data center. Once 
you do that, you will suddenly find that virtually almost everyone in the 
competitive IP transit market will provide you with dual-stacked IPv4/IPv6 
service. 

If you are buying DIA circuit from some $isp to your rural location that 
you call "head-end" and are expecting to receive a competitive service, 
and support for IPv6, well, then your expectations are either unreasonable, 
ignorant or both. 

Best, 
James 



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