Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

The majority of the large eyeball providers in the US are already doing this to most, if not all, of their customers.

Comcast I believe has 100% IPv6 availability to residential and I think they are most of the way on Business too.

I’m not sure of the percentage, but I know Time Warner Cable is well underway with their IPv6 deployment.

Even AT&T is making progress on their DSL and u-Verse services.

Verizon FIOS is a laggard, which is interesting given that VZW was the first and still has the best Cellular IPv6 
deployment in the US

(IPv6 ONLY insisting on manufacturers implementing 464XLAT is inferior in every way to dual stack, so T-Mo loses and to 
the best of my knowledge, SPRINT still can’t spell IPv6 to save their life)

I don’t think any of the MVNOs have any IPv6 capability yet.

So the problem you are suggesting we focus on is mostly a solved problem. Content Providers are progressing, modulo 
some serious laggards, notably Amazon and a few others.

The reality, however, is that in terms of deprecating IPv4, there does need to be a focus on consumer electronics, 
device support, home router support and it’s quite overdue. Fortunately, we’re finally starting to see some movement in 
that area.

Owen

> On Oct 2, 2015, at 07:27 , Steve Mikulasik <Steve.Mikulasik () civeo com> wrote:
>
> I think more focus needs to be for carriers to deliver dual stack to their customers door step, whether they 
> demand/use it or not. Small ISPs are probably in the best position to do this and will help push the big boys along 
> with time. If we follow the network effect (reason why IPv4 lives and IPv6 is slowly growing), IPv6 needs more nodes, 
> all other efforts are meaningless if they do not result in more users having IPv6 delivered to their door. 
>
> I think people get too lost in the weeds when they start focusing on device support, home router support, user 
> knowledge, etc. Just get it working to the people and we can figure out the rest later.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> To: Matthew Newton <mcn4 () leicester ac uk>
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> Subject: Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption
>
>
> In message <20151001232613.GD123100 () rootmail cc le ac uk>, Matthew Newton writes:
>
> Additionally it is now a OLD addressing protocol.  We are about to see young adults that have never lived in a world 
> without IPv6.  It may not have been universally available when they were born but it was available.  There are 
> definitely school leavers that have never lived in a world where IPv6 did not exist.  My daughter will be one of them 
> next year when she finishes year 12.  IPv6 is 7 months older than she is.
>
> Some of us have been running IPv6 in production for over a decade now and developing products that support IPv6 even 
> longer.
>
> We have had 17 years to build up a universal IPv6 network.  It should have been done by now.
>
> Mark
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