Re: AS4788 Telecom Malaysia major route leak?

[Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond () prolocation net>]

Hello Mel,

Must just be me then. 

I was most likely expecting a more in depth report. Strange things happened. Perhaps they could post a 'what exactly 
happened' since this wasnt a average route leak. 

Thanks,
Raymond Dijkxhoorn

> Op 14 jun. 2015 om 23:27 heeft Mel Beckman <mel () beckman org> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Raymond,
>
> They provided a "simple sorry":
>
>    "We apologise for any inconvenience caused by the service disruption."
>
> It doesn't get much more simple than that.
>
> -mel beckman
>
> > On Jun 14, 2015, at 2:21 PM, Raymond Dijkxhoorn <raymond () prolocation net> wrote:
> >
> > Hai!
> >
> > Mark, mistakes and oopses happen. No problem at all. I understand that completely. There is human faillure and this 
> > happenes. 
> >
> > A simple 'sorry' would have done. Yet their whole message tells 'they did ok' In my very limited view they did NOT 
> > ok. Did i misread?
> >
> > I am also very much looking how level3 is going to prevent things like this. But out of own experience they will 
> > not. We have seen before that they implemented filtering based on customer lists. But not a per customer filter. 
> > They did this globally. So any l3 customer can announce routes of another l3 customer. While this can be changed 
> > this outage tells there is certainly room for improvements. 
> >
> > I hope people will learn from what happened and implement proper filtering. Thats even more important then a message 
> > from a operator that didnt even understand fully what they caused to the internet globally. 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Raymond Dijkxhoorn
> >
> > > Op 14 jun. 2015 om 23:04 heeft Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu> het volgende geschreven:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On 14/Jun/15 22:55, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote:
> > > > Hai!
> > > >
> > > > Wouw! This is what they came up with?! 
> > > >
> > > > Hopefully Level3 will take appropriate measures. Its amazing. Really. 
> > > >
> > > > 'Some internationally routes' 
> > > >
> > > > Have they any idea what they did at all?
> > > >
> > > > Its amazing that with parties like that the internet still works as is <tm> ...
> > >
> > > I wouldn't be as hard. Stuff happens - and as they said, during a
> > > maintenance activity, they boo-boo'ed.
> > >
> > > Are Level(3) going to own up and say they should have had filters in
> > > place? I certainly hope they do.
> > >
> > > But more importantly, are Level(3) going to implement the filters
> > > against TM's circuit? Are they going to run around the network looking
> > > for any additional customer circuits that need plugging? That's my
> > > concern...
> > >
> > > Mark.