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Re: Enterprise network as an ISP with a single huge customer


From: Stepan Kucherenko <twh () megagroup ru>
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 05:48:24 +0300

13.06.2015 05:35, Randy Bush wrote:
i have seen a lot of this done with firewall devices and vlans.  with
vlans or mpls, you can make spaghetti without wires, one wheat and one
semolina.

oh absolutely. you can use many tools to lop off your fingers, my
point was that things like mpls (or vlans) provide a nice other tool
to use along with your firewalls and such.

of course you ought not willy-nilly go crazy with this, but... imagine
if the 'hr department' were in one contiguous 'VRF' which had a
defined set of 2-3 exit points to control access through... while
those willy 'engineers' could be stuck in their own ghetto/VRF and
have a different set of 2-3 exit points to control.

Expand your network over many locations and in large buildings and ...
it can be attractive to run a 2547 network that the company is a
'customer' of, or so I was thinking :)

i have seen people successful with this with mpls and with vlans with
non-mpls tunnel tech (e.g. ipsec for the paranoid).  i have seen them
screw the pooch with both.

randy


You can compartmentalize your network in lots of ways. What I'd like to know is what ways failed harder in other peoples experience (or at least faster).

I'm not sure doing it ISP style is better, but I think it has some benefits. Then again, the opposite is true as well, less complexity means more stability. Usually.


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