Re: Residential VSAT experiences?

[TR Shaw <tshaw () oitc com>]

I don’t know what your location is but a wireless internet provider using Canopy or Ubiquity or whatever is much more 
preferable. Also cellular is used in “remote” locations with good results.

I know plenty of people "in the bush” that use these alternatives over VSat.  I use the above over VSat when I am out 
on fishing trips to remote locations. 

For truly remote where there is no options other than VSat <sigh> you need to live with the latency problems for now. 
Iridum is currently too slow and too costly.  Maybe LEO or MEO in the future but not now.

I have used SSH from a transatlantic flight but the delay can weigh on you ;-)

Tom

> On Jun 22, 2015, at 8:18 PM, Alfred Olton <alfredolton () gmail com> wrote:
>
> I had Hughes Net a few years back and can confirm that SSH access was
> pretty much intolerable for me.
> The delay between what I was typing, and when it would actually show up on
> the screen in the remote terminal was really annoying for me.
> As mentioned in previous responses, I think you would want a low orbit
> satellite internet provider, if you can find one for residential use.
>
> In my case, I had a land line, but was too far out for ADSL, so I ended up
> getting ISDN (*with unlimited local calling on my phone plan*).
> Of course the SSH usage experience then was much better.
>
> Al
>
> On 06/22/2015 04:04 PM, Hugo Slabbert wrote:> Personally, 500-700ms of
> delay is well within distinguishable range and
> > causes challenges in verbal communication.  If the speakers are both
> > expecting and accustomed to delay like that (e.g. sailors that are used
> > to being hundreds/thousands of miles away from anywhere and any other
> > comms solution sucks anyway), it could be workable.
> >
> > For regular consumer/business voice applications, 100ms and lower is
> > decent, but above that starts to get into various degrees of suckage.
> >
> > Just my 2c.
> >
> > --
> > Hugo
> >
> > On Mon 2015-Jun-22 15:54:49 -0700, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com> wrote:
> >
> > > I never had good luck with VSAT and SIP. Maybe you had a better kit
> > > than I
> > > did :)
> > >
> > > -Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 3:49 PM, Dovid Bender <dovid () telecurve com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Interesting that you say that about sip. We had a client that would
> > > > use it
> > > > for sip on ships all the time. It wasn't the best but it worked. Ping
> > > > times
> > > > were between 500-700ms.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dovid
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Mike Lyon <mike.lyon () gmail com>
> > > > Sender: "NANOG" <nanog-bounces () nanog org>Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:33:43
> > > > To: Nicholas Oas<nicholas.oas () gmail com>; NANOG<nanog () nanog org>
> > > > Subject: Re: Residential VSAT experiences?
> > > >
> > > > SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
> > > >
> > > > Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
> > > > Hit me up offlist if you want me to check for you.
> > > >
> > > > -Mike
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Nicholas Oas <nicholas.oas () gmail com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
> > > > > residential satellite internet?
> > > > >
> > > > > Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and ViaSat Exede and I'm
> > > > thinking
> > > > > specifically as a sysadmin who needs to use the uplink for work, not
> > > > surf.
> > > > > What are your experiences with the following applications?
> > > > > -SSH, (specifically interactive CLI shell access)
> > > > > -RDP
> > > > > -SIP over SSL
> > > > > -IPSec Tunneling (should be a non-starter due to latency)
> > > > > -GRE Tunneling
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > -Nicholas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mike Lyon
> > > > 408-621-4826
> > > > mike.lyon () gmail com
> > > >
> > > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Mike Lyon
> > > 408-621-4826
> > > mike.lyon () gmail com
> > >
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mlyon