Re: SIP trunking providers

[Curtis Maurand <cmaurand () xyonet com>]

That may be true of metro areas, but in rural USA there's plenty of TDM 
to go around.  Telco's are still delivering broadband on ADSL and phone 
on TDM.  Worse those trunked circuits are TDM over HDSL. In many rural 
areas, there's not even ADSL or cable and that's within 40 miles of a 
small city.

--Curtis

On 7/20/2015 5:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> The TDM network is rapidly being eliminated. The major telcos have been moving their backbones to VOIP and higher 
> levels of oversubscription as a result for years now because of the very large cost savings that can be achieved.
>
> International TDM may still be pretty common, but domestic TDM is rapidly becoming as popular as a Strowger.
>
> Owen
>
> > On Jul 20, 2015, at 06:49 , Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com> wrote:
> >
> > End to end delay is not the most limiting factor.  Jitter is the issue and packet drops are the other issue that 
> > matters (more importantly the distribution of drops).  I think the best reason to select the local provider over the 
> > distant one is that the sooner he gets off the IP network the less impairments he will run into.  The TDM network as 
> > antiquated as it is, is less susceptible to congestion and call impairments than an IP backbone network is.  I can tell 
> > you from running a bunch of International VOIP networks that they are just not as reliable as TDM.  The average 
> > internet connection just does not meet the reliability standards that the TDM voice network has achieved.  IP networks 
> > are affected by congestion and routing issues whereas the TDM network seldom has these type of problems.  An outage on 
> > a TDM circuit rarely affects other TDM circuits so they see a lot less higher level outages.  I can understand why he 
> > does not want to haul his voice cross country over IP when he is exiting locally most of the time.
> >
> > Yes, I understand that the carrier might very well be hauling that traffic via IP even after he gets to his gateway 
> > point but at that point it becomes their problem to deal with.
> >
> > Steven Naslund
> > Chicago IL
> >
> >
> > > If you’re going to the PSTN, who gives a shit where you do the interconnect as long as its within 100ms.
> > >
> > > If most of your calls are VOIP<->VOIP within Chicago, then it makes some sense to set up a box and just send the external 
> > > calls out to the trunking provider where >you no longer really care where they are.
> > >
> > > Absent significant network  suckage, there’s no place in the contiguous US that isn’t within 100 ms of any other place 
> > > in the contiguous US these days.
> > >
> > > Owen

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