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From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 16:39:01 -0500 (CDT)

On 06/07/15 19:12, Joe Greco wrote:
Terrible idea. These are the kind of features that should be opt in, and
Microsoft could have done that instead.

It *is* an option.

Opt-in and opt-out are two models of having an option.

Also I meant being opt-out for the network administrator regarding the
availability of the _optout suffix. Instead it should have been opt-in
by the use of some _share suffix.

No, it should have been opt-in by the use of some standards-track
mechanism.  Substituting less-screwed for more-screwed is still just
screwed at the end of the day.

Anyways, if you look on the first page of "Customize settings", yes 
there's an option for "Automatically connect to networks shared by my
contacts" and it CAN be turned off, but it defaults to on.

That's an option for the users, not for the network administrator.

That's unclear.  It is likely settable as policy at some level.  I'm 
not going to defend Microsoft since I think it is total crap, but I
am not going to be totally unfair about it.

As a network administrator (at home, at work, whatever) I have some
trust for my users but not necessarily for the friends of my users. The
decision should be up to the network administrator, not the user.

The way it's implemented, user inaction makes him/her violate network
usage policy.

Unclear at best.  The way it is implemented, the user has the potential
to go either way.  A network might not want the user to have the choice,
clearly, but there is certainly a subset of users who will opt out of
the feature and I cannot see how those would be in violation of any sane
network usage policy.

It's certainly a mess in any case.

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


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