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Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 04:41:47 -0500 (CDT)
"Sean Donelan" <sean () donelan com> writes:
On Mon, 6 Jul 2015, Joe Greco wrote:Anyways, if you look on the first page of "Customize settings", yes there's an option for "Automatically connect to networks shared by my contacts" and it CAN be turned off, but it defaults to on.Defaults matter. Every configuration parameter has a default setting, whether intentional or not.
Well of course defaults matter. We work in an industry where the defaults supplied by most tech companies for the average user are quite depressing to me. People want easy and many don't bother to understand or (even worse) care about privacy. Just look at web advertising and tracking. As bad as that is on the general Internet, even I was a bit shocked to find yesterday while training NoScript on a new VM that a certain wireless carrier's customer portal was reaching out to maybe as many as twenty different ad and tracking networks, including Bing, Yahoo, and Google, in order for you to log in and pay your bill. http://www.sol.net/tmp/nanog/mytmobile-login.jpg This stuff is frickin' pervasive. The default is "track the hell out of everyone" and "share everything you can." I remember first seeing the Windows 10 "share networks to contacts" and trying to imagine that it meant anything other than wifi access creds. That's part of the problem. They don't even tell you what the words are actually saying, or why it matters one way or another. For those on this list, that may not be a problem, but my 80 year old mom isn't going to have a clue. Bacon Zombie <baconzombie () gmail com> writes:
This is on by default in the beta like all the reporting in MS. Will probably be either a prompt in the RTM version.
Sure. A prompt that defaults to on, on a screen that most people probably bypass, because the new thing is to make tech easy, and bogging them down with a bunch of questions that only computer geeks and privacy wonks and network gearheads care about (or even understand) is anti-user. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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- RE: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Andrew Bosch (Jul 06)
- RE: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Dan Gamble (Jul 06)
- Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Hugo Slabbert (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends Octavio Alvarez (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Joe Greco (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Sean Donelan (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Bacon Zombie (Jul 07)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Joe Greco (Jul 07)
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- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Joe Greco (Jul 07)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Joe Greco (Jul 06)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Octavio Alvarez (Jul 07)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Joe Greco (Jul 07)
- Re: Fwd: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with Robert Drake (Jul 08)
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