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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality


From: Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 15:42:17 -0500

'"Normal" is whatever the user normally tries to do.'

That's simply not a realistic definition.  There's no way to determine what
a consumer will want to do before they sign up for the service.  For that
matter, it's impossible to determine what a customer will want 2 years
after they've signed.  Further, its impossible to understand what is normal
without spying on your customers.

'"Reasonable" is
whatever the user is willing to pay for. Any mismatch between the two
finds its error in your marketing department.'

Reasonable pricing is what the market will bear as always, but what the
market will bear versus what customers *expect* often greatly diverge.
Anyone who wants to pay for a direct connection to a Tier 1 of their choice
with SLAs can do so, but that's not that doesn't happen.


'Seems like a competitive service provider focused on meeting that
customer population's needs would do well. Any notion what has
prevented that from happening?'

They *are *the alternative operator in this market.  What's keeping anyone
else from doing it better is that it's more expensive than customers will
pay to "do it better".


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:17 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 3:01 PM, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:
The problem is in defining what is "normal" and "reasonable" when
customers
only know what those mean in regards to their behavior and not the larger
customer base nor the behavior of the global network.

Hi Scott,

"Normal" is whatever the user normally tries to do. "Reasonable" is
whatever the user is willing to pay for. Any mismatch between the two
finds its error in your marketing department.

If your understanding of normal and reasonable radically diverges from
this, you've made a mistake. It's exactly as simple as this.


I have a customer on the west coast that has a very large Asian immigrant
population and a very high percentage of the traffic from this access
provider is going to and from Asia.  This introduces a lot of variables
that
are far outside of the operator's control, so what's reasonable for this
operator to do to ensure "reasonable" speeds when the links to Asia get
saturated far upstream of them?  They certainly could choose to buy
alternative connectivity to that region, but then they'd have to raise
rates
and most of the time that extra connectivity isn't needed.

So what are they doing? Playing it one-size-fits-all and giving this
"very large" customer population no way to get acceptable speed to the
portions of the Internet that population wants to reach?

Seems like a competitive service provider focused on meeting that
customer population's needs would do well. Any notion what has
prevented that from happening?

Regards,
Bill Herrin




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