Re: gmail spam help

[Daniel Taylor <dtaylor () vocalabs com>]

Possibly related: http://www.ahbl.org/content/changes-ahbl

We had to manually remove it from spamassassin for our local 
installation, and I am pretty sure that a lot of sites still haven't 
figured it out so there's a lot of false positives being generated all 
over the place to throw off even filters that don't use it directly.

On 02/12/2015 09:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF 
> is proper. This is a recent issue.
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> From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms () zcorum com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
> To: Alex Rubenstein
> Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
> Subject: Re: gmail spam help
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> I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the lack of spam from this specific server.  A great 
> percentage of the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from very similar kinds of set ups because they tend to 
> have little or no over sight in place.
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> Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by users, even when they opted in for the email.  If enough people 
> flagged email from this server as spam it will cause Google to consider other email from the same small server as 
> likely to be spam as well.  Small systems, especially new ones, tend to unintentionally look like spam sources by not 
> having proper reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the domain, etc.
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> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
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> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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> On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>> wrote:
> I should have been clearer.
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> I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail account or google apps) that they 
> recipient is reporting that the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I tested this myself, sending an email from alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex 
> () corp nac net><mailto:alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>> to rubenstein45 () gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail 
> com><mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com>>
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> This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net<http://corp.nac.net> is a small exchange implementation with only about 50 
> users behind it, and there is no question that there is no spamming going on from here.
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> So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not using gmail; it is not me who is using gmail in this problem.
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> From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com<mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]
> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
> To: Alex Rubenstein
> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: gmail spam help
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> Create a filter.
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> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein" <alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net><mailto:alex () corp nac 
> net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>>> wrote:
> Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by 
> gmail erroneously?
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> Thanks.


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