RE: gmail spam help

[Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net>]

Mainly because I own it, and the people who use it. The server has been around 10+ years and has tight oversight. SPF 
is proper. This is a recent issue.






From: Scott Helms [mailto:khelms () zcorum com]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:51 AM
To: Alex Rubenstein
Cc: Josh Luthman; NANOG list
Subject: Re: gmail spam help

I'd be interested to know how you can be so adamant about the lack of spam from this specific server.  A great 
percentage of the spam hitting servers I have visibility into comes from very similar kinds of set ups because they 
tend to have little or no over sight in place.

Also, lots of commercial email gets flagged as spam by users, even when they opted in for the email.  If enough people 
flagged email from this server as spam it will cause Google to consider other email from the same small server as 
likely to be spam as well.  Small systems, especially new ones, tend to unintentionally look like spam sources by not 
having proper reverse records, making sure you have SPF set up for the domain, etc.


Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
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http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>> wrote:
I should have been clearer.

I have been getting complaints from my sales folks that when they send emails to people who use gmail (either a gmail 
account or google apps) that they recipient is reporting that the email is ending up in the Spam folder. So, I tested 
this myself, sending an email from alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net><mailto:alex () corp nac 
net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>> to rubenstein45 () gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com><mailto:rubenstein45 () 
gmail com<mailto:rubenstein45 () gmail com>>

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This is curious to me, since @corp.nac.net<http://corp.nac.net> is a small exchange implementation with only about 50 
users behind it, and there is no question that there is no spamming going on from here.

So, it’s not a question of adding a filter or not using gmail; it is not me who is using gmail in this problem.



From: Josh Luthman [mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com<mailto:josh () imaginenetworksllc com>]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2015 9:32 AM
To: Alex Rubenstein
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: gmail spam help


Create a filter.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 12, 2015 8:11 AM, "Alex Rubenstein" <alex () corp nac net<mailto:alex () corp nac net><mailto:alex () corp nac 
net<mailto:alex () corp nac net>>> wrote:
Is there anyone on-list that can help me with a world -> gmail email issue, where email is being considering spam by 
gmail erroneously?

Thanks.