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Re: Nat
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2015 14:40:50 +1100
In message <00e801d13b96$873e1120$95ba3360$@gmail.com>, "Chuck Church" writes:
-----Original Message----- From: Mark Andrews [mailto:marka () isc org] Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 7:46 PM To: Chuck Church <chuckchurch () gmail com> Cc: 'Matthew Petach' <mpetach () netflight com>; 'North American Network Operators' Group' <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: NatI have a single CPE router and 3 /64's in use. One for each of thewireless SSID's and one for the wired network. This is the default for homenet devices. A single /64 means you >have to bridge all the traffic.A single /64 has never been enough and it is time to grind that myth intothe ground. ISP's that say a single /64 is enough are clueless. Mark, I agree that a /48 or /56 being reserved for business customers/sites is reasonable. But for residential use, I'm having a hard time believing multi-subnet home networks are even remotely common outside of networking folk such as the NANOG members. A lot of recent IPv4 devices such as smart TVs have the ability to auto-discover things they can talk to on the network. If we start segmenting our home networks to keep toasters from talking to thermostats, doesn't this end up meaning your average home user will need to be proficient in writing FW rules? Bridging an entire house network isn't that bad.
So *you* think the ISPs should *dictate* how a user internally splits up their network? There is NO technical reason to NOT give a customer multiple subnets. Every technology supports multiple prefixes. Even with 6rd you *can* give the user multiple subnets. It's only lazyness (or purchasing incompetence if the BR doesn't support multiple domains) that results in ISP's handing out single subnets over 6rd.
Chuck
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Current thread:
- RE: Nat, (continued)
- Re: Nat Matt Palmer (Dec 20)
- Re: Nat Matt Palmer (Dec 20)
- RE: Nat Chuck Church (Dec 20)
- Re: Nat 'Matt Palmer' (Dec 20)
- RE: Nat Jon Lewis (Dec 21)
- Re: Nat Mark Andrews (Dec 20)
- Re: Nat Lee Howard (Dec 18)
- Re: Nat Randy Bush (Dec 17)
- Re: Nat Lee Howard (Dec 18)
- Re: Nat Matthew Newton (Dec 18)
- Re: Nat Sander Steffann (Dec 19)
- Re: Nat Jeff McAdams (Dec 19)
- Re: Nat Sander Steffann (Dec 19)
- Re: Nat Nick Hilliard (Dec 19)
- Re: Nat Sander Steffann (Dec 19)
- Re: Nat Jared Mauch (Dec 19)