Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix

[Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>]

Does DE-CIX usually go to market with at least some of the big content
providers already on board? For example, will guys like Netflix, Google,
and other CDN's more than likely be on the exchange starting day 1?

How does  DE-CIX work if you want to cross connect over the exchange to
another provider in a different on-net datacenter of the exchange in the
same metro market?

On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 8:44 AM, Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net> wrote:

> I'd expect that eventually DE-CIX will build into every Dallas datacenter
> as they have done in New York and Germany whereas Equinix is only
> available... in Equinix.
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor () gmail com>
> To: "Charles Gucker" <cgucker () onesc net>
> Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:36:20 AM
> Subject: Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix
>
> Charles,
>
> You mentioned to not use " DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark" for Dallas,
> but it looks like DE-CIX has priced their Dallas ports, according to their
> website, at the same prices at NYC:
>
> https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374
>
> PortSpeed/GbpsMRC1GE1US$ 57510GE10US$ 1,250100GE100On request
>
> Pricing table effective from 1 August 2015.
>
>
> There is a special offer:
>
>
> *Join us now and get your 1GE or 10GE port free of charge for*
>
> - *6 months* (minimum contract term of 12 months) or
> - *12 months* (minimum contract term of 36 months).
>
>
> https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374
>
>
> So it seems that their 10G port price, after promo, is $1250, and it does
> not mention cross connect would be included. Compare this to Equinix's 10G
> port with a cross connect included at $1000 per month. Considering
> Equinix's
> cross connects are usually $350 per month, this means Equinix's actual 10G
> port really cost $650 per month.
>
> So, I will ask the question again, why are providers going to jump and
> use DE-CIX
> over Equinix's peering exchange? I am failing to see the benefit.
> I thought it would be price, but apparently not.
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Charles Gucker <cgucker () onesc net> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
> > wrote:
> > > What are the main difference between these two peering companies,
> > > exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be
> > > Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering
> > > exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that
> that
> > > would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to
> > > establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better
> > > question is why would people switch?
> >
> > In short, Equinix is by far and large a data center operator and
> > the Internet exchange is an add-on service only available within their
> > data center locations. DE-CIX is an exchange point operator who
> > operates in multiple dis-parent data center locations.
> >
> > > For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix
> > > charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge
> > > $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be
> true
> > > in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/
> >
> > I would not use DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark. As DE-CIX
> > learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to
> > build an exchange in. As such their operating costs are a lot
> > higher than in other markets and I don't believe it would be a good
> > assumption to use NYC based pricing in Dallas. But keep in mind,
> > DE-CIX likes to distribute their network access nodes to get a larger
> > audience than within ones own facility.
> >
> > Also, I would suggest looking at the big picture and the cost of
> > colocation services in a facility other than Equinix to "level the
> > playing field".
> >
> > > Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and
> > > their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by
> > the
> > > infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees.
> > >
> > > Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members?
> > What
> > > is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers
> > the
> > > cost of operating the exchange?
> >
> > As stated above, when looking at the big picture, it may or may
> > not be more expensive when all of your other services are considered.
> >
> > It should be said that I don't have any axe to grind and think
> > very highly of Equinix. But with respect to Dallas, I would suggest
> > looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true.
> >
> > charles