Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix

[Mike Hammett <nanog () ics-il net>]

I'd expect that eventually DE-CIX will build into every Dallas datacenter as they have done in New York and Germany 
whereas Equinix is only available... in Equinix. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor () gmail com> 
To: "Charles Gucker" <cgucker () onesc net> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org> 
Sent: Monday, August 3, 2015 8:36:20 AM 
Subject: Re: DE-CIX vs Equinix 

Charles, 

You mentioned to not use " DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark" for Dallas, 
but it looks like DE-CIX has priced their Dallas ports, according to their 
website, at the same prices at NYC: 

https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 

PortSpeed/GbpsMRC1GE1US$ 57510GE10US$ 1,250100GE100On request 

Pricing table effective from 1 August 2015. 


There is a special offer: 


*Join us now and get your 1GE or 10GE port free of charge for* 

- *6 months* (minimum contract term of 12 months) or 
- *12 months* (minimum contract term of 36 months). 


https://www.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/#c2374 


So it seems that their 10G port price, after promo, is $1250, and it does 
not mention cross connect would be included. Compare this to Equinix's 10G 
port with a cross connect included at $1000 per month. Considering Equinix's 
cross connects are usually $350 per month, this means Equinix's actual 10G 
port really cost $650 per month. 

So, I will ask the question again, why are providers going to jump and 
use DE-CIX 
over Equinix's peering exchange? I am failing to see the benefit. 
I thought it would be price, but apparently not. 

On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Charles Gucker <cgucker () onesc net> wrote: 

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com> 
> wrote: 
> > What are the main difference between these two peering companies, 
> > exchanges, and overall operating model? The market in question would be 
> > Dallas Texas where Equinix already has the only established peering 
> > exchange with over 100 members, and DE-CIX just announced today that that 
> > would also be building one in Dallas. It will take time for DE-CIX to 
> > establish their exchange in Dallas and get members, but they better 
> > question is why would people switch? 
>
> In short, Equinix is by far and large a data center operator and 
> the Internet exchange is an add-on service only available within their 
> data center locations. DE-CIX is an exchange point operator who 
> operates in multiple dis-parent data center locations. 
>
> > For a 10G port with a cross connect to the exchange included Equinix 
> > charges $1000 per month. According to DE-CIX it looks like they charge 
> > $1250 per month for a 10G port in NYC, so I asusme the same would be true 
> > in Dallas. https://nyc.de-cix.net/products-services/pricing/ 
>
> I would not use DE-CIX NYC pricing as a benchmark. As DE-CIX 
> learned, NYC is a very difficult market to get connectivity and to 
> build an exchange in. As such their operating costs are a lot 
> higher than in other markets and I don't believe it would be a good 
> assumption to use NYC based pricing in Dallas. But keep in mind, 
> DE-CIX likes to distribute their network access nodes to get a larger 
> audience than within ones own facility. 
>
> Also, I would suggest looking at the big picture and the cost of 
> colocation services in a facility other than Equinix to "level the 
> playing field". 
>
> > Looks like DE-CIX will offer a promo to entice new members to join, and 
> > their exchange will be in the carrier neatural meet me room operated by 
> the 
> > infomart that will have little to no cross connect fees. 
> >
> > Why would people pay more to connect to an exchange with less members? 
> What 
> > is the european exchange that is a non-profit and basically only covers 
> the 
> > cost of operating the exchange? 
>
> As stated above, when looking at the big picture, it may or may 
> not be more expensive when all of your other services are considered. 
>
> It should be said that I don't have any axe to grind and think 
> very highly of Equinix. But with respect to Dallas, I would suggest 
> looking at bigger picture and see if your assumptions still hold true. 
>
> charles