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Re: Drops in Core


From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:21:34 -0700

I would say that the probability of a packet drop at any particular peering
point is less than the probability at one of the two edges.

However, given that most packets are likely to traverse multiple peering
points between the two edges, the probability of a packet drop along
the way at one of the several peering points overall is roughly equal
to the probability of a drop at one of the two edges.

YMMV.

Owen

On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:07 , Glen Kent <glen.kent () gmail com> wrote:

Hi Bill,

Just making sure that i get your point:

Youre saying that the probability of packet drop at peering points would
roughly match that at the edge. Is it? I thought that most core switches
have minimal buffering and really do cut-through forwarding. The idea is
that the traffic that they receive is already shaped by the upstream
routers.

Glen



On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:33 PM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:

On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Glen Kent <glen.kent () gmail com> wrote:
Is it fair to say that most traffic drops happen in the access layers, or
the first and the last miles, and the % of packet drops in the core are
minimal? So, if the packet has made it past the first mile and has
"entered" the core then chances are high that the packet will safely get
across till the exit in the core.

Hi Glen,

I would expect congestion loss at enough peering points (center of the
core) to put it in the same league as noisy cable at the edge.

Regards,
Bill Herrin



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