nanog mailing list archives

Re: Industry standard bandwidth guarantee?


From: Jeff Sorrels <jlsorrels () kanren net>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:14:18 -0500

And if you look at it from the provider's prospective, they have lots of customers who want 12 gallons of gas worth of driving time, but only want to pay for 11 gallons (or worse, went to "gasspeedtest.net" and it showed their purchased gas only gave them 10 gallons worth of driving time).

Consider a better analogy from the provider side: A customer bakes a nice beautiful fruit cake for their Aunt Eddie in wilds of Saskatchewan. The cake is 10 kg - but they want to make sure it gets to Eddie properly, so they wrap it in foil, then bubble wrap, then put it in a box. They have this 10kg cake and 1kg of packaging to get it to up north. They then go to the ISP store to get it delivered - and are surprised, that to get it there, they have to pay to ship 11kg. But the cake is only 10kg! If they pay to ship 11kg for a 10kg cake, obviously the ISP is trying to screw them. The ISP should deliver the 10kg cake at the 10kg rate and eat the cost of the rest - no matter how many kg the packaging is or how much space they actually have on the delivery truck.

And then the customer goes to the Internet to decry the nerve of the ISP for not explaining the concept of "packaging" up front and in big letters. "Why they should tell you - to ship 10kg, buy 11kg up front! Or better yet, they shouldn't calculate the box when weighing for shipping! I should pay for the contents and the wrapping, no matter how much it is, shouldn't even be considered! It's plain robbery. Harrumph".

Jeff

On 10/31/2014 6:02 AM, Joe Greco wrote:
That's fine as long as they're giving you a resource that can potentially
transfer the 20Mbps.

That *is* a silly example.

A more proper analogy would be that you buy 12 gallons of gas, but the
station only deposits 11 gallons in your tank because the pumps are
operated by gasoline engines and they feel it is fine to count the
number of gallons pulled out of their tank instead of the amount given
to the customer.


Finding new ways to give the customer less while making it look like more
has a long, proud history, yes.

... JG

--
Jeff Sorrels
Network Administrator
KanREN, Inc
jlsorrels () kanren net
785-856-9820, #2


Current thread: