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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch


From: "Israel G. Lugo" <israel.lugo () lugosys com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:17:09 +0100

I was actually not aware of this. I've been told that systemd also
includes fsck's functionality (or is planning to?). That just seems
absurd to me.

I didn't really have a strong opinion on either side of this yet. Seeing
the replies from other people here, though, and reading some more about
it, this seems to be a very bad idea.

The binary logs for example worry me, especially corruption issues:

http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1y6q0l/systemds_binary_logs_and_corruption/
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169966



On 21-10-2014 14:40, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44:57 +0900, Randy Bush said:
systemd is insanity.  one would have hoped that deb and others would
know better.  sigh.
It started as a replacement init system.  I suspected it had jumped
the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service.  And this
was confirmed when I saw this:

"Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping
support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other
commits."

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ

When your init system is worrying about cursor rendering, you have truly
fallen victim to severe feature bloat.  I guess Jamie Zawinski was right:
"Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail."


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