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Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch
From: "Israel G. Lugo" <israel.lugo () lugosys com>
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 18:17:09 +0100
I was actually not aware of this. I've been told that systemd also includes fsck's functionality (or is planning to?). That just seems absurd to me. I didn't really have a strong opinion on either side of this yet. Seeing the replies from other people here, though, and reading some more about it, this seems to be a very bad idea. The binary logs for example worry me, especially corruption issues: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1y6q0l/systemds_binary_logs_and_corruption/ https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=169966 On 21-10-2014 14:40, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 14:44:57 +0900, Randy Bush said:systemd is insanity. one would have hoped that deb and others would know better. sigh.It started as a replacement init system. I suspected it had jumped the shark when it sprouted an entirely new DHCP and NTP service. And this was confirmed when I saw this: "Leading up to this has been cursor rendering support, keyboard mapping support, screen renderer, DRM back-end, input interface, and dozens of other commits." http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTgwNzQ When your init system is worrying about cursor rendering, you have truly fallen victim to severe feature bloat. I guess Jamie Zawinski was right: "Every program attempts to expand until it can read mail."
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- Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Israel G. Lugo (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Ca By (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Randy Bush (Oct 20)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Miles Fidelman (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Israel G. Lugo (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Owen DeLong (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Bryan Tong (Oct 21)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Jamie Bowden (Oct 22)
- RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Barry Shein (Oct 22)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Lamar Owen (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Zachary (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Lamar Owen (Oct 23)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Jay Ashworth (Oct 24)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch Valdis . Kletnieks (Oct 21)
- Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT] Stephen Satchell (Oct 23)