RE: IPv6 Default Allocation - What size allocation are you giving out

[Peter Rocca <rocca () start ca>]

To paraphrase a post on this list a while ago (my apologies for lack of reference).

There are two kinds of waste:
 - the first kind of waste is providing 'too many' subnets for someone;
 - the second kind of waste is leaving the space unallocated forever.
 
If we choose the first option and somehow burn through the 35 trillion /48's out of the first /3 we're drawing from 
(ie, almost 5000 /48's for every person on the planet) then we can always reconsider how to be more conservative with 
the remaining 88% of unallocated IPv6 space.

-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces () nanog org] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: October-09-14 12:45 AM
To: Mark Andrews
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: IPv6 Default Allocation - What size allocation are you giving out

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> > > Only short sighted ISP's hand out /56's to residential customers.
> >
> > I am curious as to why you say it is short sighted? what is the 
> > technical or otherwise any other reasoning for such statement ?
>
> 256 is *not* a big number of subnets.  By restricting the number of subnets residences get you restrict what 
> > developers will design for.  Subnets don't need to be scares resource.  ISP's that default to /56 are making them a 
> > scares resource.
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So, this is more of a 'opinion' / 'feel' (with all due respect) comment, and not something which has a (presently) 
compelling technical reasoning behind it ?


Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support () Snappytelecom net 

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Andrews" <marka () isc org>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net>
> Cc: "Sam Silvester" <sam.silvester () gmail com>, "NANOG" 
> <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:40:07 AM
> Subject: Re: IPv6 Default Allocation - What size allocation are you 
> giving out
>
>
> In message
> <482678376.131852.1412829159356.JavaMail.zimbra () snappytelecom net>,
> Faisal Imtiaz writes:
> > > A /60, /56, /52 or /48 allows the client to run multiple SLAAC 
> > > subnets (16, 256, 4096 or 65536) and to have the reverse ip6.arpa 
> > > zone delegated on a nibble boundary.
> >
> > Understood...
> >
> > > There is plenty of address space even handing out /48's to everyone.
> >
> > Also Understood.
> >
> > > Only short sighted ISP's hand out /56's to residential customers.
> >
> > I am curious as to why you say it is short sighted? what is the 
> > technical or otherwise any other reasoning for such statement ?
>
> 256 is *not* a big number of subnets.  By restricting the number of 
> subnets residences get you restrict what developers will design for.  
> Subnets don't need to be scares resource.  ISP's that default to
> /56 are making them a scares resource.
>
> Mark
>
> > Faisal Imtiaz
> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
> --
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka () isc org