Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange

[Justin Wilson <lists () mtin net>]

The way our exchange works is 2 different products in regards to this.

1.Peering on the exchange.  This is a BGP exchange.
2.Private VLAN.  Each side gets a private VLAN between the two.

Either way you buy capacity on the exchange and it¹s up to you how you use
it.

I have some Equinix documents on their exchange port offerings if you are
interested.

Justin


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On 11/25/14, 4:29 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal () snappytelecom net> wrote:

> Hi Colton,
>
> The primary challenge in buying IP Transit across a Peering Exchange is
> not so much of a technical configuration challenge, but rather a 'how do
> we keep track of how much IP Transit you are using' ..a billing challenge.
>
> and additionally, one is making the assumption that there is capacity to
> do so on the IP Transit Providers Peering Port Connection.
>
> While it is possible to deal with such issue, but you need someone
> willing and able to do so, on the other side.
>
>
> ------------------------
> > I think the way most providers would do this would be to get a rack and
> > power with Equinix. Pay a cross connect fee from the wave provider to
> > our
> > rack. Pay for an exchange port (which includes a cross connect to the
> > exchange) for the 5GBPS of traffic going to Netflix, Google, etc. And
> > then
> > pay for yet another cross connect going to HE.net's cage to get pure IP
> > from them.
> -------------------------
>
> Yes, you are right, this is the traditional way of doing so, and yes, it
> can get expensive.. For this exact reason, folks such as us and others
> who are willing to provide access via their existing resources at
> different facilities.
>
> We are facilitating flexible connectivity needs of folks who are running
> remote (from major metro areas) such as yours, in Miami, Atlanta, and I
> know others who are doing so in Equinox Chicago, one in Texas and a
> couple of the West Coast.
>
> Feel free to ping me off list if you are interested in additional details.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support () Snappytelecom net
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Colton Conor" <colton.conor () gmail com>
> > To: "Ammar Zuberi" <ammar () fastreturn net>
> > Cc: "NANOG" <nanog () nanog org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 2:51:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Buying IP Bandwidth Across a Peering Exchange
> >
> > The exchange in question is Equinix. Their sales team is leading me
> > to believe there are multiple exchange products. One where you can peer
> > with providers (Google, Netflix for example) and then one where you can
> > create virtual private layer 2 vlans between providers. Then there is
> > also
> > the traditional cross connect fee of $350 if you want to go from one
> > cage/rack to the other.
> >
> > So in a situation where we are getting a 10Gig transport wave to
> > Equinix,
> > we would ideally like to split this wave's use to 5Gbps of traffic
> > going to
> > the peering exchange for traffic going directly to Google, Netflix, and
> > other CDN's, and then 5Gbps of pure IP transit going to a low cost
> > provider
> > like HE.net. Of course providers like HE.NET are also peers on the
> > peering
> > exchange, so it seems possible that we could just opening a peering
> > conenction with them.
> >
> > I think the way most providers would do this would be to get a rack and
> > power with Equinix. Pay a cross connect fee from the wave provider to
> > our
> > rack. Pay for an exchange port (which includes a cross connect to the
> > exchange) for the 5GBPS of traffic going to Netflix, Google, etc. And
> > then
> > pay for yet another cross connect going to HE.net's cage to get pure IP
> > from them.
> >
> > If I can buy transit directly I avoid the expenses of having to pay for
> > space, power, another router/switch, plus a second cross connect. Thats
> > quite a bit of money saved.
> >
> > Are exchanges really that unreliable compared to a traditional cross
> > connect?
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Ammar Zuberi <ammar () fastreturn net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Conor,
> > >
> > > I know this is possible since Hurricane Electric does it for IPv6
> > transit,
> > > however, I'm not sure if it violates any exchange rules or if it's
> > even a
> > > good idea.
> > >
> > > > On 25 Nov 2014, at 10:47 pm, Colton Conor <colton.conor () gmail com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > I know typically peering exchanges are made for peering traffic
> > between
> > > > providers, but can you buy IP transit from a provider on an
> > exchange? An
> > > > example, buy a 10G port on an exchange, peer 5Gbps of traffic with
> > > multiple
> > > > providers on the exchange, and buy 5Gbps of IP transit from others
> > on the
> > > > exchange?
> > > >
> > > > Some might ask why not get a cross connect to the provider. It is
> > cheaper
> > > > to buy an port on the exchange (which includes the cross connect to
> > the
> > > > exchange) than buy multiple cross connects. Plus we are planning on
> > > getting
> > > > a wave to the exchange, and not having any physical routers or
> > switches
> > > at
> > > > the datacenter where the exchange/wave terminates at. Is this
> > possible?
> > >