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RE: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL


From: David Hofstee <david () mailplus nl>
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2014 10:37:32 +0100

I suggest reputation on the reply-to domain also (if authenticated of course). No more running to other IPs / ESPs if 
you are a bad boy. You can integrate it in browsers and show it there too (watch out; don't enter your email address 
here because they will spam you or have spam evading practices [if no authentication takes place]). Show the reputation 
in the email client if possible.

And I would like fine-grained complaining possible (so everyone can filter like the big boys can, one might need the 
'ham' numbers too). But you want to be sure such numbers are authentic.


David Hofstee

Deliverability Management
MailPlus B.V. Netherlands (ESP)


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: mailop [mailto:mailop-bounces () mailop org] Namens Michael Peddemors
Verzonden: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:06 AM
Aan: mailop () mailop org
Onderwerp: Re: [mailop] IPv6 DNSBL

On 14-03-26 04:42 PM, John Levine wrote:
As a reliable rule of thumb, any list that's large enough to be 
interesting is also large enough to be compromised.

I know people who have run whitelists at Returnpath, and I was in 
charge of the never very successful Spamhaus whitelist.  The ones at 
Returnpath always said that much of the job was dealing with bullshit 
and deception from people trying to sneak into the whitelist.  At 
Spamhaus, the main problem was that nearly all of the people willing 
to go to the effort to be whitelisted didn't qualify, which wasn't 
surprising, since people with good mail behavior rarely have trouble 
getting their mail delivered.

R's,
John

Here Here..

(For instance, we recommend that people running filtering turn those off right away, eg SA..)

But we do see a lot of people discussing this here, and at the risk of making even more noise on this list on this 
subject, and maybe we should kill the thread there..

It would be interesting to get a poll of sorts.. hands please..
(You can reply off-list)

Options:

1) Only allow IPv4 to be used for MTA's
2) Create a Registry of Operators/IPs for MTA's on IPv6
3) Allow all IPv6 to be used for MTA's, and use blacklists
4) Other (Suggestions)

And if you believe in item 2, (personally I am happy with 1 or 2 and open to 4) what would you expect such a registry 
to look like?






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