Re: arin representation

[Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>]

Yes and no… Everyone who receives a direct allocation is a member.

Those who receive direct assignments from ARIN, OTOH, are not members unless
they choose to also pay an additional $500/year for that membership.

Owen

On Mar 23, 2014, at 9:53 PM, Timothy Morizot <tmorizot () gmail com> wrote:

> Unless I misremember, everyone who receives a direct allocation from ARIN
> and signs an RSA is automatically a member. It's not clear to me what
> "owner of a /24 network" means in that context. (I don't recall if signing
> an LRSA in and of itself also makes one a member, since by the time we had
> signed an LRSA, we had long since received our direct IPv6 allocation under
> an RSA.)
>
> But perhaps Randy is looking for the number of /24 equivalents allocated to
> legacy resource holders who haven't also received an IPv6 direct allocation
> or other IPv4 direct allocation under an RSA?
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 10:46 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund () medline com>wrote:
>
> > Exactly right John.  I think the term "owned" is a problem here.
> >
> > It seems to me that the terms would correctly be "holder" or who the
> > address space was issued to or "user" being the end user using that space.
> >
> > Wouldn't all of the holders be ARIN members unless grandfathered in?
> >
> > Steven Naslund
> > Chicago IL
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Curran [mailto:jcurran () arin net]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 10:36 PM
> > To: Randy Bush
> > Cc: North American Network Operators' Group
> > Subject: Re: arin representation
> >
> > On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Randy Bush <randy () psg com> wrote:
> >
> > > two questions:
> > >
> > > o of the /24s in the arin region, what percentage are owned by arin
> > >   members?
> >
> > Randy -
> >
> >  Happy to generate these - two questions for clarity.
> >
> > 1) Should we expand /16's and /8's into the corresponding number of /24's ?
> >   (or do you only want those blocks issued originally as /24's to be
> > counted)
> >
> > 2)  In terms of categories, we could go strictly with /24's held by ARIN
> > members
> >    versus /24's held by non-members (and resulting percentages); note
> > that would
> >    be predominantly ISPs since end-users assignments from ARIN are
> > unlikely to be
> >    members unless they specifically opted to join. Alternatively, we
> > could provide
> >    counts /24's under RSA, /24's under LRSA, and /24's
> > legacy-no-agreement as the
> >    three categories of counts desired (and each percentage of the total)
> >
> >    So, based on above, would you prefer the /24 space statistics as asked
> >    (member/non-member) or rsa/lrsa/legacy-no-agreement?
> >
> > > o of the address holders in the arin region, what percentage are arin
> > >   members?
> >
> >  Will do.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > /John
> >
> > John Curran
> > President and CEO
> > ARIN