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Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.)
From: Cb B <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 07:11:16 -0700
On Mar 22, 2014 2:32 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan () digitalocean com> wrote:
Oh btw, how many ipv4s are you hording with zero justification to keep them? I was unpopular during apricot for not liking the idea of no liability leasing of v4. I don't like this artificial v4 situation every eyeball network created. Why is v4 a commodity and asset? Where is the audits. I can justify my 6 /14s, can you still?
You seem to be missing something, it is called Metcalfe's Law, google it. There is no long-term solution for you using ipv4 and me using ipv6. To derive value from the internet, we all need to be on one technology that supports end to end communication for us all. CB
On Mar 22, 2014 4:36 AM, "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com> wrote:Millions of IPs don't matter in the face of X billions of people, and XX-XXX billions of devices - and this is just the near term estimate. (And don't forget utilization efficiency - Millions of IPs is not millions of customers served.) Do IPv6. /TJ On Mar 22, 2014 3:09 AM, "Bryan Socha" <bryan () digitalocean com> wrote:As someone growing in the end of ipv4, its all fake. Sure, the rirswillrun out, but that's boring. Don't believe the fake auction sites. Fair price of IP at the end is $1 for bad Rep $2 for barely used, $3
for
nospam and $4 for legacy. Stop the inflation. Millions of IPS
exist,
there is no shortage and don't lie for rirs with IPS left.
Current thread:
- Re: misunderstanding scale, (continued)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Bryan Socha (Mar 23)
- Re: misunderstanding scale Tim Franklin (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Owen DeLong (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Bob Evans (Mar 24)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) TJ (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Lee Howard (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Bob Evans (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Owen DeLong (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 25)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Cb B (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Chris Knipe (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) William Herrin (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Justin M. Streiner (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Mark Tinka (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) John Levine (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Mark Tinka (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) John Levine (Mar 22)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Mark Tinka (Mar 23)
- Re: misunderstanding scale (was: Ipv4 end, its fake.) Tore Anderson (Mar 23)