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Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica
From: Jeff Kell <jeff-kell () utc edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 20:00:16 -0400
On 3/20/2014 7:32 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Then there is this whole matter of end-to-end connectivity. Just because your WAN device links up at 8 Megabits, does not mean you have been guaranteed 8 Mbits end-to-end.
Have run into this one more times that I care to count. We're running very marginally loaded links all around, and have setup "speedtest" site locally to prove the issue is not local. Our upstream Commodity provider also has "speedtest" peer, and we can also point people there. You can point people to them to prove it's not between us and the next hop. Of course some folks just don't get it :) You chase down the squeaky wheel complainers, and find them running IE with a dozen toolbars, a few P2P clients, adware out the wazoo, and other things I can barely bring myself to think about, let alone admit in a public forum :) And doing it over wireless, while they're microwaving their dinner, and ignoring their wireless printer they never bothered to disable since they plugged it in wired. While playing XBox with their wireless controllers, listening to Pandora over their BlueTooth headset, while their roommate is watching Netflix (wirelessly) on their smart TV, with the wireless subwoofer and back speakers. Yeah, end-to-end guarantee? It's difficult enough to prove you have the first hop covered. Plug the damned thing in the wall, download Malwarebytes / Spybot / something, and deal with the real problem here, dude :) "Your internet sucks!". Or as a recent Tweet from a student mentioned, "Fix the Mother Effing wireless in the dorms". (The dorm with the 802.11n / gig ports on the APs / etherchannels back to the data center, nonetheless). Jeff
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