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Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica
From: Blake Hudson <blake () ispn net>
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:16:26 -0500
Mark Tinka wrote the following on 3/20/2014 7:39 AM:
On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 09:06:47 PM Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:The angle on my right shoulder wants to congratulate a "tier one" (whatever the F that means) provider for finally admitting, in writing, in public, from a lawyer, what the rest of us have known for decades.Every time the market has troubled the status quo, networks have failed to find ways that adapt to that market. The market ends up working around the network. Napster and all the goodness that followed it, is one such example; until iTunes adapted. And yes, iTunes is NOT the network. Now the OTT's are driving the network hard, and the network des not want to adapt (perhaps calling in the FCC is adapting... not). So expect the market to work around this as well. The network keeps getting left behind... Mark.
I don't see this as a technical problem, but one of business and ethics. ISP X advertises/sells customers "up to 8Mbps" (as an example), but when it comes to delivering that product, they've only guaranteed 512Kbps (if any) because the ISP hasn't put in the infrastructure to support 8Mbps per customer. Customer believes he/she has 8Mbps, Content provider says we provide 8Mbps content, but ISP can (theoretically and in practice) only deliver a fraction of that. That feels like false advertising to me.
One can reasonably make the argument that not all of ISP X's customers are using the service simultaneously, so the infrastructure to support 8Mbps per customer is unnecessary and unjustified. However, if past experience proves that 25% of business X's customers are consistently using the service simultaneously and business X has NOT put in the infrastructure to support this common level of usage, then this appears to be a simple financial decision to advertise/sell something that the business knows it cannot deliver. Would the same business practices fly in other fields? Perhaps. Airlines overbook, knowing that some customers won't show up. However, they don't sell 200 tickets (knowing that 90% if customers will show) but have only 100 seats to serve the 180 customers they expect. Fast food restaurants don't sell you a fry and drink when they know they're out of fries. I can speculate that customers would not patronize companies in the travel or food industry if they operated the same way that some ISP's operate. The difference, to me, seems to be that ISPs often enjoy a monopoly while there are usually several food and travel options in most places.
--Blake
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- Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Jay Ashworth (Mar 19)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Patrick W. Gilmore (Mar 19)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Mark Tinka (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Blake Hudson (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Mark Tinka (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Jimmy Hess (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Jeff Kell (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Jay Ashworth (Mar 24)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Keith Medcalf (Mar 22)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Niels Bakker (Mar 22)
- RE: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Blake Dunlap (Mar 22)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Blake Hudson (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Matthew Petach (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs' refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Niels Bakker (Mar 23)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Mark Tinka (Mar 20)
- Re: Level 3 blames Internet slowdowns on ISPs’ refusal to upgrade networks | Ars Technica Patrick W. Gilmore (Mar 19)